Losing out on Pienaar is great business — here’s why

pienaar said he rejected chelsea cos he didnt feel carlo wanted him, also even though luiz is 25m, i think you need a top class defender whos very similar and younger than carvalho. Yeah hes a little overpriced but currently hes the most in demand and a regular in brazil side so they can afford to ask for that money. Anyway need to buy someone fast as theres not much time left and if theres any other injury to terry or bane then your buggered.

Carlo has said defence is priority, in summer chelsea can hopefully get some good bargains to improve the average age of the squad also the youngsters will be 1 year older and wiser. Saying that the old guard will get 1 year older as well. They will need to be replaced asap.

10.02: L’Equipe reports that Fulham could be closing in on the loan signing of Chelsea youngster Gael Kakuta, who has had sporadic chances to impress in Carlo Ancelotti’s first XI this season. It would be nice and easy to move down the road, so this one seems a goer

Ya right. Let's sign us up a Gary Cahill

Chelsea need to psend around £200 million over the next two or three years to stay as title contenders, our squad is old and the young players are shite

I hope we just forget about David Luiz and move on. no freaking way we should pay 25 million pounds....save the damn money for wages and smaller targets to bolster the squad

Agreed. I'd love to focus on Subotic with regard to upgrading the defense.

sounds like most 'Yugoslav' players feel the same way in regards to their wages. Luka Modric is reportedly on 70k a week also. and from what he has said in the past, i kinda gather that they appreciate what they now have, and certainly aren't the greedy types. its a far cry from yaya toure

Just get Sanchez and Luiz and be done with it...

BTW hope you find that partner in crime you're looking for.

Things are coming together as we speak. Sorry about the lack of posts this week, but fucking internet has been down (Charter, wack).

Alexis Sanchez is a better option than Pienaar...

Does he think he'll be better off there? In 18 months Harry Redknapp will be England manager and Spurs's revival will be over and he'll be left having made a big mistake.

Oh well.
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Pienaar is average. Malouda is better, Anelka still has a season or so to give, Zirkov could yet come good and of course we all want to see Kakuta come through. Pienaar is better than Kalou but that doesn't make him worth signing. If we do get a winger he should be world class or have the potential to be so (Sanchez falls into this category). If not then we should give the kids a go...

haha, Serbian iceberg. Like that.

I'm proud of the way that club has treated wage demands that are ludicrous. Joe Cole was sent packing (great business considering current form) as well as Ballack (was hesitant, but given wage to games played ratio since FA Cup, good business). Deco and Carvalho couldn't have been cheap wages either. Our slump will not be permanent, and we will get back to the mix at the top.

"Harry's Revolution"? As I've pointed out before, we have Chelsea going through their worst form in over a decade. We also have Spurs in their finest run of form in even more decades. And the result? The North London team is STILL below Chelsea in the table. Yes, Chelsea's worst form is PROVEN to be better than Spurs' best. I see no "Revolution".

I see you did not sense my sarcasm. Apologies.

They had 2 points from 8 games when Harry took over, having finished the season 11th the year before. They are in CL now. Is that not a revolution? Your logic is severely flawed. A revolution is a drastic change from one state to another, not a comparison with a neighbouring club.

By your logic, there was no French Revolution because the British economy was still better after the revolution.

Or that Blackpool didn't have a revolution because "they're still below Spurs"

Oh yeah, our worst form is better than their best? During our worst form, we got 10 points from 11 games. I think they have about 22 from their last 11. Better work on your math and your "proofs."

What we pay JT and Lampsie, they pay Modric, VdV, Bale, Lennon, Huddlestone and Pienaar. Their highest earner is Modric at 70 a week. I think Kalou makes 60-70 in Chelsea, and what a fan favorite he turned out to be.

The team is prepared for the future, financially and in terms of squad, stadium, etc. What are we doing on the other hand? Random clear-outs followed with panic buys, dismissing our legends disgracefully, held ransom to 30 million for a defender.

Spurs are planning on moving to a new stadium. Chelsea is planning to build an underground nightclub under Stamford Bridge.

Who do you think will be in a better position once the new rules come in?

Turn off your petty rivalry for one second and see how much they're doing with so little.

I agree completely. Chelsea have been outclassed in the transfer market the last two years. Ramires has turned out to be worthless. Bosingwa has not played enough and has done nothing this year. Zhirkov has done nothing. Benayoun was a good signing. Chelsea should look toward proven Premier League performers instead of players like the dreadful Ramires who shined in subpar leagues across Europe. United, Arsenal, Man City, Tottenham have all made valuable additions to their squads in the last two years. Chelsea have added nobody and this is while they will be lucky to finish in the top 4. They need reinforcements in attack. Malouda and Anelka have crashed down to earth and who knows if they will recover form. Nzogbia, comes to mind as a proven Premier League performer who could bolster the attack.

It's good for him. He'll actually get playing time in Spurs whereas in Chelsea he'd be like an extra in a movie. CFC can't even attract the likes of Pienaar anymore. And Chelsea is not interested in straight, transparent deals with reasonable fees. It has to be shady, shrouded in mystery and suspicion, and involve slimy, "permanently under-investigation" agents like Jorge Mendes and Pini Zahavi, who make millions over making sure Paulo Ferreira wakes up in time for practise.

It's not that we can't attract players like Pienaar, it's that he KNOWS he is only going to be an extra whereas in Tottenham he has a better chance of breaking into the starting XI permanently. Sure, he'd get some good playing time now, but he knows that when we are back to our best, he will become a bench player. When our youngsters (like Kakuta or McEachran) develop a little more, why would we ever choose Pienaar over them? They have much more potential than Pienaar, and the supporters tend to like homegrown (or academy "graduates") more than some 28 year old back up we bought to cover us in an injury/confidence crisis.

What about Benayoun? A 30 year old "supersub" from a midtable club.

Name me some players who want to join Chelsea on a personal level. Some players who want to play for Chelsea because they want to, not because Chelsea is bidding 30mill for them, Players prefer City for the cash, Arsenal for the style and United for the honour and trophies. Chelsea seem to be out of cash, lacking style and I seriously doubt our chance of winning any trophies this season. There's very little honour in playing for a club that fires former captains as dishonourably as they did to Ray. LFC honour their former players like Dalglish, Chelsea throw them out midgame and replace them with a girls coach.

Don't expect much from the kids. They won't get many chances to play, like Stoch, Di Santo, etc. and will leave just like Borini will this season. Do you think that Bruma and Mancienne would ever get a chance if Chelsea get David Luiz for 30m? Or that we'll see much of PVA and Bertrand considering 18m, Russian international Zhirkov is on the bench?

Based on last season, I'd still take Benayoun all day everyday over Pienaar. He's more versatile and I think he's a better player. I really don't think Pienaar is good enough to play for us anyway. Sergio Aguero, he wants to play for Chelsea. Romelu Lukaku would love to play for us but hasn't made his mind up yet as to where he's going.

Yes, we will see more of Bruma, and we will see more of PVA. Bertrand is on loan for the rest of the season so there's no point in mentioning him now. What do you call Sturridge, Kakuta, McEachran slowly getting more playing time?. You're being WAY too pessimistic dude. We have a great chance to retain the FA Cup, we have a chance to win the Champions League. And while the battle for the league is going to be a very hard uphill battle, the facts are that we have half a season to gain 12 points on United. Arsenal had less than that and almost made up an 11 point gap before they screwed up again, so counting us out is wrong and premature. It's also not being "realistic" because you nor anybody else has any idea what will happen.

Also, I think you're just not hitting the target with your assessment of why players want to go to United, Arsenal, City. Players don't go to Arsenal for style, they go because they're young and Wenger is the best in the game for developing young players, there is nobody better. It's a FACT that Arsenal falls apart against better opposition. I wouldn't call that style. City and Arsenal won't win a thing this year, and not every player just wants cash (Torres comes to mind, and there are few better strikers than him in the world). Yeah, United wins stuff, but they're weaker than they were in previous years, and if we actually played worth a shit we'd blow them out of the water. You're simplifying this way too much, and being too pessimistic. Lighten up and believe in your team.

I believe in my team, I don't believe in the board. I believe in each and every individual player in Chelsea, including Kalou, but Champions League?... You know that we lost to Wolves, right? Got hammered by Sunderland at home. Even Roy Hodgson beat us.

City don't have to win anything this year. Their objective is 4th place, anything beyond that is icing on the cake. Mancini won't be fired for a 4th place finish, hell, he wasn't fired for a 5th place finish last year. They gave him a chance and he's doing above expectations this year.

Chelsea were expected to be 1st or 2nd this year. Now that seems too far away.

Aguero signed an extension till 2014 and won't sell for anything less than 40m. They smell desperation. Chelsea prefers sudden changes, big transfers, massive clearouts... there was little preparation for the gradual aging of the squad, didn't consider that competition for places in the starting 11 would be good, or having more than one backup attacking midfielder would be good...

United are weaker than previous years, yet they're first, unbeaten, with games at hand and Spurs couldn't beat a 10 man united. You know what Spurs would do to a 10 man Chelsea? Well, we remember from last year.

I'm sad that this is happening to my team and to Ancelotti. He doesn't deserve taking the blame for being a coach who decides nothing but player selection and tactics, yet has to take all the blame for everything else.

Chelsea need a full clear out. They are full of old boys like AC Milan. You keep the class but you lose the freshness over the years. (Average age is 35). Why would Pienaar want to play withl Fat Boy Lamps and Le Sulk who's been there and done that, who are not on it any more, the I could hang up my boots tomorrow attitude must be pungent in the air. chelsea have no time for blips. i feel they have lost focus. This is very bad for players of 32, who dont have much longer in the game left.
Because seriously, how long do think these players have. This is the down side of buying a team in a season without care.

Full clearout? It's this style that causes full failures. You talk about age like it's everything. Carvalho is doing well, a starter in one of the best teams in the world despite his age. Ballack is in the second best team in Germany and we'll be seeing him in CL next year for sure. Sir Whiskeyface's oldies are still playing and are unbeaten this season and Milan's oldboys are the top team in Italy so far this season.

Chelsea should learn to sell their players before their value plummets. You think anyone would pay much for Drogba, Anelka, Terry and Lampard this year?

Other teams are smelling the desperation in Chelsea. If we get Luiz for 25m or whatever, you think anyone would buy him of us for the same value a year from now? They're holding Chelsea ransom for a player that no one else has shown interest in. There's no bidding war here, there's no other club, it's pure ransom.

Are you really a chelsea fan? If you are you are extrremelyt pessimistic. This season has been disappointing in the way in which we have handed the PL to United but the future looks bright for us. It looks like we will secure Ivanovic and Bosingwa, Kakuta signed a four year deal, Sturridge looks like he's hitting form and we've had a raft of key players injured, we haven't been able to put a stable side out for two games running and despite our worst run in 15 years we're still 4th, last 16 of the CL and 4th round of the FA cup. Oh and I forgot to mention the emergence of McEeachran.

Come on get behind Chelsea, Spurs...5th...still behind us....

I am a Chelsea fan. If I weren't, why would I care? I'd be laughing at Ancelotti, who's trying to do a job with one hand tied to his back and is sometimes blindfolded.

Why would I care that Chelsea reports yearly losses, yet pay so much to shady agents? Or that we can't score or create chances from the middle and that we need corner kicks and set pieces like a lower mid-table long-ball outfit? We couldn't score against Wolves and we're interested in an overpriced defender?

We used to be the best team in Europe. The second best team in Europe had to cheat us out of Champions League two years ago with their hands and now you're telling me "we're above the spuds?"

Every team goes through a transitional period. United went through one, post Ronaldo and Tevez. They finished second, one point off first on the very last day.

We're in a smaller transitional phase too, we didn't lose the player we built the whole team around, the top scorer and a world class striker. But why are we fighting against the spuds for fourth?

We might have a bright future, but will it be with Ancelotti or is he just a temporary manager?

Max, it was all down to Money. Nothing else. He is, like the majority of players these days, sadly, a mercenary. It's not a criticism, just a statement of fact.

Money was a big part, but the fact that he knew he wouldn't play as much for us as he would for Tottenham was the other part.

Ha that's the stupidest thing in the world. Everyone knows that chelsea's form is temporary, as the "great" Andy Gray once said in a recording studio for EA, "Form is temporary, Class is permanent" You can't compare chelsea to spurs. Chelsea have a realistic chance of winning something, Spurs don't have a shot in hell. Spurs will end up in the europa league. Chelsea are one of the biggest clubs in the world, and everyone who knows anything about football knows that. Hopefully we'll get out of our slump. Pieenar would have been good to replace Ramires whilst we continue on our quest to find someone better or wait for McEachran to develop fully.

KTBFFH

Hi Henry. The "Form is temporary, class is permanent" line has been around for decades – even before Andy Gray hung up his playing boots.

yhh brans been on 30k for 3 years and deserves his extra wages!
he is also 26! so chances are we could still get a sell on value for him!
with bosingwa looking like he wont be signing a new contract brany looks like our right back for next season anyway and we need versatility to keep our squad wage bill down!
bran also manages to keep injury free super player!

Agreed. Also, not sure how other people feel about this, but I think I prefer Ivanovic to Alex. Ivanovic is giving his heart and soul to this club, his passion and commitment is evident in everything he does on the pitch for us (one play in which he literally sprinted what seemed like halfway across the pitch to give an opposing team a throw in instead of a corner sticks in my mind). I'm not saying Alex isn't committed or passionate, but Ivanovic, given lots and lots of solid playing time, is showing that he is a VERY good player. Alex should have to displace Ivanovic, he shouldn't just assume his position when he comes back from injury.

Our best look when fully fit is EBALJT and Alex in the middle with Bane on the right, no question.