Rant Box: The already infamous transfer ban
By: Jack | September 3rd, 2009Discuss.
I’m banned for four f****** months?!
Points you may want to touch on:
1. Why Chelsea is the only club singled out in this bogus monstrosity.
2. Will this ban hold up?
3. Why isn’t anyone talking about the player, Gael Kakuta, and how his ban, a worldwide one of four months, may turn out to be the most severe?
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it’s weird to hear chelsea fans complain about unjustly and irrationally harsh punishment so soon after they were applauding the courts’ decision to make mutu pay 17 million euros after chelsea released him from his contract. reading here and elsewhere after that ruling, i just assumed everyone here supported maximum penalties all the time, no matter what logic or reason dictated.
and while i personally would like to see all the big clubs’ big money transfers stopped, and for there to be a world where you can’t just buy titles or inherit them from oil barons, you can’t be serious when you compare this to the ronaldo/madrid saga. man u sold a player, and got a lot money. lens had their player taken from them, and received no compensation (until this ruling). surely you all understand the difference. of course big money teams throw their money around to unfairly get players–you all have done it plenty of times. it’s legal (again, even if i personally don’t like it) when you PAY. it’s not legal when you don’t. it’s like the difference between offering someone so much money for his favorite car that he can’t refuse selling it, even if he doesn’t want to, …and just stealing the car. chelsea stole the car. does that make sense?
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martin:
again, the issue is that if a club sells a player, it’s not breaking his contract. it’s a transfer. when a player has a “buy-out clause” in his contract, selling him is PART OF HIS CONTRACT. getting a player to reneg on his contract (as fifa alleges chelsea did) is illegal because it’s like stealing.
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jeremy:
I take your point that these are two different things. And your car analogy is severely flawed. A closer analogy would be if your car could somehow think and communicate, and someone else was constantly hanging around your garage and the parking lot where you work always talking bad about you and how bad the car’s life was, and how much better the car would be taken care of if the car was that person’s. Then your car constantly started to bitch and moan about everything, ran slower, used more gas, and randomly broke down until you were willing to sell it for less than it was worth.
It wouldn’t be impossible to regulate this–we do it here in American sports, where if a team is interested in another team’s player, they have to first obtain the club’s permission before approaching that player at all, and if they don’t follow these steps, they will receive sanctions from the league.
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martin, i completely agree that what madrid did this summer (and what lots of clubs do all the time) is wrong, and is one of my least favorite parts of the game. i don’t like it, but under the current rules, it’s legal. and i agree that it could be regulated better and that it should be. i would love to see salary and transfer caps in european soccer.
however, what chelsea has tried to get away with is one step more insidious. in trying to cherry pick players just out of other teams’ youth systems, they’ve found a way to never invest in developing young players (which they’ve never been willing or able to do), but also to never have to invest in them once someone else has scouted, trained, and invested in their development. at least in the current system the smaller teams who actually do the work of developing talent are compensated for their efforts. without rulings like this, the chelseas (already the billionaires of europe) would be able to bleed smaller squads dry without even giving them money in return.
so i agree with you: there should be MORE regulation, not less. and therefore rulings like these, the last things keeping these ridiculous clubs in check, must be enforced.
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mancienne, cork, terry, cole, huth, nouble and in our current youth team most are english. Some of them believe it or not are pretty good.
Now chelsea are not just going in and stealing players, they find players who have no contracts(kakuta was 15 when chelsea bought him) and sign them by bringing their family over to england. This is no different to what manU has done or what england and liverpool have done in recent years. Lens is complaining because he supposedly had a pre-contract with them but chelsea is being punished as if kakuta was a professional player when he went to chelsea, something he was not.
Kakuta is the most exciting player in chelsea’s reserve side and should have been unveiled as a player not as a news item.Posted from
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Well, it is in fact true that the EPL clubs have benefitted from the loopholes of the European labor law. Big 4 have been signing promising youngsters for next to nothing for many many years and gotten away with it because it is legal in England. It is sort of unfortunate for Chelsea to take the axe but this was bound to happen. I think Man U, Liverpool, and Arsenal are just as bad as Chelsea and wonder why they did not get the same punishment that they deserve.
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Please help stop Accrington Stanley from going into administration. They need to raise 308k in 8 weeks. Please donate 1p to the whole 308k at http://www.saveourstanley.co.uk. No-one likes to see a club go under.
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Soooo Chelsea Stole this child, and held his family at gunpoint to force him to play for them. FIFA finally stepped in to this gross violation of humanity perpetrated by the War Criminal John Terry.
It’s a sad sad day for football.
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When Eduardo was banned for diving, everyone agreed its a picky punishment. No, not everyone! Some said that we have to start somewhere. The same with this case.
Chelsea “did not know about his agreement with Lens” is not a valid argument. They knew it as everyone else who follow some details about the game. If they had doubts they would have been able to fax Lens and ask about the player legal status. Lens will not be able to compete with Chelsea to sign a player with a free contract. So if he wasn’t their player than, they wouldn’t be able to get him. Chelsea case will be clear this way.
Saying “Chelsea didnt know” is like someone who steal a horse tied to a tree, then later he say “I didn’t know that someone else own it”. Law does not protect idiots.
Yet, I wonder if the FIFA will investigate the Regina case as well. This talents piracy has to stop. Whoever does it must be punished. Period.
If UEFA banned every diver for two games from now and on, then its fair enough. The same as punishing any club –I am not excluding any- that commit talents Piracy. Whether from another European club, or from Africa or South America. Then it will be a fair process.
But I believe its just some noise. An Appeal will take place, compromise, some money for Lens, and everyone will be happy beside those who want a better future for the game.
BTW, the Cesc example is hilarious, taking the players transfers history in consideration!
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to be fair ramzi says it best it had to start somewhere
n can any chelsea fan explain how the appeal is going to work-roma appealed on past clean transfer history-cant say the same about chelsea
n why are united been forgiven???get em tooPosted from
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football players are like rappers .. if you drive a dump truck full of money up to their house, they’ll do whatever you want .. case in point: Dr Dre meets Dr Pepper ..
is it right? no, it’s not. does every club that is able to do it, do it? yes. why Chelsea? why not? someone had to take the flak and make FIFA look like they were doing something about it .. the blame wheel stopped on them .. it’ll get reduced on appeal and everyone will be just a little less happy ..
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Chelsea has the team it needs. After all, their transfer activity was over with weeks remaining. There may a dynamo spending spree once the 2-window ban ends, but things will be fine until then.
I help run a Chelsea fan club in the US midwest called Indy Blues FC. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Indy-Blues-FC/116200258629
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Every time you have a thought about how the severity of the punishment doesnt reflect the magnitude of the crime, spare a thought for adrian mutu.
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Chelsea fans complain that referee mistakes cost them a place in the cl final. Some are uttering the words “fix” and “conspiracy”. Chelsea coach Guus Hiddink didn’t agree that it was a fix, but could still “understand” the emotional spillover after the final in London.
What utter nonsense. The victory over two legs by Barcelona was fully deserved and justice was done. This, notwithstanding the mistakes by the referee, now seen as the antichrist by supporters, may have committed. If there was a conspiracy, what was the referee doing sending off Barcelona’s Abidal for a foul he did not commit, with 25 minutes still to go? Was that too, part of some antichelsea master plan engineered out of Geneva by UEFA?
The truth is Chelsea screwed up, by not mustering the courage to attack Barcelona even at home, and keep attacking them after taking a 9 minute 1-0 lead. Even against a weekend Barcelona side, Chelsea never looked like a home team, trying to exploit their home advantage. They played with one striker against a second string Barcelona defense, and even substituted him for a defender on 72 minutes. Is this what some people mean by substance over style? Actually its not substance, but cowardness. The team with the substance and the style was Barcelona, who despite being away from home, despite fielding a weakened side, and despite being down a man for the last 25 minutes, attacked and attacked, with gallantry and astonishing self belief, until their reward came.They deserved everything they got…as do Chelsea. Especially a couple of their petulant players, Drogba and Ballack, whose tantrums inventing their spleen at the referee were about as courageous as their team’s tactics.
The truth is Chelsea screwed up, by not mustering the courage to attack Barcelona even at home, and keep attacking them, and keep attacking them after taking a 9 minute 1-0 lead. Even against a weakend Barcelona side, Chelsea never looked like a home team, trying to exploite their home advantage. They played with one striker against a second string Barcelona defence, and even substituted him for a defender on 72 minutes. Is this what some people mean by substance over style? Actually its not substance, but cowardness. The team with the substance and the style was Barcelona, who despite being away from home, despite fielding a weakend side, and despite being down a man for the last 25 minutes, attacked and attacked, with gallantry and astonishing self belief, until their reward came.
They deserved everything they got…as do Chelsea. Expecially a couple of their petulant players, Drogba and Ballack, whose tantrums inventing their splean at the referee were about as courageous as their team’s tactics.
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THIS FORUM IS AS INTERESTING AS CHELSEA.
BAM!!!
WORD
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@ DHB
You have effictively silenced all Chelsea fans with that comment. Word man, WORD.
Chelsea have 0 cl, barca have 3. Chelsea have 3 leagues, barca has 91. Barca also has 25 cups, a lot more than chelsea. WE ARE SUPERIOR IN EVERY SINGLE WAY.
LOL
LOL
Word
Nottingham forest’s history is more impressive than Chelsea’s. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo
WORD
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Barca has 19 leagues*
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@FFFFFFFFF
You’re the fucking man!
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dang, you guys actually make chelsea fans seem not obnoxious. i’m not sure if it’s more annoying when chelsea fans talk about how they were robbed so long after the match in completely irrelevant situations, or when barcelona fans point out that chelsea played poorly and with cowardice in said match, in equally irrelevant situations. they’re both annoying, i guess.
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hahaha barca hangers on make me laugh. anyways, lampard with a nice brace against croatia today!!
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chelsea 2, liverpool 2, manU 1 … if only lamps had got the hat-trick today…
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I know everyone was probably goin for england, but man i feel sorry for eduardo. That was a blatant penalty, that challenge couldn’t even be misjudged as clean. Credit to him though, he didn’t object or anything…
guess arsenal shoulda had 2 goals as well that game through eduardo… (both glen johnson’s fault)
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yeah we’ll give arsenal 1. lennon was awesome, hes in great form this season. heskey was as wasteful as ever. who do you guys think should start? defoe or heskey? also, why do my posts say that im from the USA :s yuck..
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Though Heskey probably lacks the skill and composure that Defoe currently has, he brings a lot to the team. When facing more challenging and more physically imposing teams it is important, I think, to have one of your two strikers as a tall and strong player to better compliment Rooney. Heskey can receive long balls and hold up the ball in a somewhat drogba like manner, which is an important option to have when facing more physical teams. I think this is probably how Capello feels; who really seems to appreciate the work ethic and intangibles Heskey brings. I think Heskey balances out Rooney better, and is a combination that can cope with a greater variance in oppositions… even if Heskey doesn’t directly rack up the goal tallies himself…
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well said. i’d have to agreed. it looks like defoe will have to remain a super sub!
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